- English translation
He is neither up nor down, a person who counts for nothing.
- Literal wording
Neither above nor below.
- Meaning and lesson
The saying labels a person as a complete nonentity: someone with no ambition and no practical use, who cannot be placed anywhere on a scale of worth. By denying the person either a high or a low position, it suggests they barely register at all.
The force comes from the paired negation; the spatial words are figurative and say nothing about physical position. Being low would at least be a position; being placed neither up nor down implies emptiness. The phrase thus expresses contempt, summing up a person as amounting to nothing.
- When it is used
Use it as a disparaging, dismissive remark about someone judged to lack drive and contribute nothing, as when explaining why they cannot be relied upon. It suits informal, critical talk, and because it attacks a person's worth, it can wound if applied carelessly.
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